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Jul 02, 2015 Debbie Zapata rated it really liked it

Peder Victorious was a much different book than the outset of Rolvaag'southward trilogy about Norwegian immigrants in the Dakota Territory. While Giants in the Earth was alive with the epic struggle to create a home in a new country, this book dealt more than with what happens subsequently the settlements are created and 'civilization' arrives at concluding in the form of organized faith, education, and politics.

Young Peder, the only family member born in the country, goes through his growing upward years in these pages. H

Peder Victorious was a much dissimilar book than the first of Rolvaag's trilogy well-nigh Norwegian immigrants in the Dakota Territory. While Giants in the Earth was alive with the ballsy struggle to create a habitation in a new country, this book dealt more with what happens after the settlements are created and 'civilization' arrives at concluding in the course of organized religion, education, and politics.

Young Peder, the just family unit member born in the country, goes through his growing upwards years in these pages. He questions everything, rebels against anybody, wonders what he volition exercise with his life. Just as millions of young men and women accept washed and will go along to do all over the world.

Just this is not only Peder's story. Rolvaag spends a lot of time on conflicts in the church building, triggered by a scandal involving a young woman and the hired hand on her stepmother's farm. The mode this incident was handled illustrated the rigid One-time Earth outlook of the local church, allowing pages and pages of theorizing inside the story. I got more a petty tired of that, and thought how odd it was for something that the pioneers had hoped and prayed for (a real church building with a real government minister!) to stop up dividing the people. They were no longer the shut community they had been in those early on pioneer days.

Politics created more rifts in the community, mainly when the topic was the splitting of the Dakota Territory into North and Southward earlier joining the Spousal relationship. Should it happen, should it not happen; people argued about it for years. Peder at 1 point thinks he would like to go into politics, only he had also thought he would be a government minister, so he was no more than certain of his hereafter than any teenager usually is.

For me the saddest aspect of this book was the education system of the day. Peder is attending a schoolhouse where only English is immune to be spoken, and the teacher not only ridicules the accents her immigrant children have, only says things similar this: "Educational activity is our only weapon against ignorance and against the inherited customs we have brought with us from the one-time country." A weapon confronting ignorance is ane affair, but to be 'educated' away from your cultural roots is something else entirely and is shameful.

Here are Rolvaag's thoughts on this book (from the introduction): "I think I have put my finger on the tragedy of emigration, the true tragedy of the soul, more intensely in this book than in any of my others." He meant the separation of the younger generation from its roots, 'the child slipping into a world where its mother cannot go'. Beret, Peder's mother, does non understand English and is fiercely proud of beingness Norwegian. She cannot see that Peder is expected to exist American now, cannot understand why he insists on mixing with the Irish gaelic settlers nearby, cannot accept that he is slipping away from her non only due to the natural laws of Life (and Beloved!) merely considering he is beingness pulled in many different directions by events in his private globe.

This is a psychologically tragic book. There may non be the tearing battles confronting the elements that were then riveting in the start volume, but the inner battles raging here are merely as intense....and then much more than depressing. The 3rd book is called Their Fathers' God . I am well-nigh to read it, and can only hope that Rolvaag can piece dorsum together the individuals, the family, and the community that were torn apart here.

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Rølvaag carries the story and many of the characters from his classic Giants in the Earth forward to the next generation. Taking place in several years effectually 1885, the adolescence of Peder, son of Per Hansa and Beret, is interestingly related to bring out 3 major themes of the American immigrant experience in the northern Great Plains of that era.

The politics of statehood for Dakota is the simplest and sets the stage for the others. The loudmouthed opinionated partisan debates fire the imag

Rølvaag carries the story and many of the characters from his classic Giants in the World forwards to the next generation. Taking place in several years around 1885, the adolescence of Peder, son of Per Hansa and Beret, is interestingly related to bring out iii major themes of the American immigrant experience in the northern Great Plains of that era.

The politics of statehood for Dakota is the simplest and sets the stage for the others. The loudmouthed opinionated partisan debates fire the imagination of Peder and prepare his listen for rational thinking and contend.

Secondly, the Americanization of the Norwegians, past giving up their linguistic communication in favor of English - and by implication their old earth culture itself - is enthusiastically welcomed by Peder just strongly resisted by his mother. This sets upwards a classic generational conflict.

The 3rd theme is the almost pregnant: the overreach of religion and its overbearing control of the people. I was pleasantly surprised at the courage of Rølvaag to tackle this theme when he wrote in 1929. He presents several grasping ministers and priests, each vying to build their flocks from the few people farming on the plains. He shows how a revivalist church can class quickly, and did over and once again in late nineteenth-century America. Rølvaag focusses this large topic precisely down on Peder and shows how his youthful, naturally moral, happy listen and self are severely disrupted by the intrusion of religion and the unnatural guilt that information technology brings. Information technology's washed quite dramatically, and I was actually hating some characters and cheering on others as the story progressed.

The saga doesn't end with this volume. One very large cliffhanger remains: What will those jilted ministers practice at present, volition they verbal some revenge? Will they succeed in destroying the reason, independence and happiness of the immigrant youth Peder? I'one thousand afraid to read the next volume.

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First, read Giants in the Globe before Peder Victorious. Second, although Gudrun Hovde Gvale'due south introduction in my copy is certainly well worth reading, unless you lot desire a synopsis of the whole story earlier you read the novel, don't read it until after you take finished the volume. Alternately, if you just desire to know what happens without read the book, by all means read information technology. There is also a biographical note on Rolvaag at the end of the novel.

Giants in the Earth is more than accessible and mayhap more

First, read Giants in the Earth before Peder Victorious. 2d, although Gudrun Hovde Gvale's introduction in my re-create is certainly well worth reading, unless you want a synopsis of the whole story earlier you read the novel, don't read it until later you have finished the book. Alternately, if you just want to know what happens without read the book, by all means read information technology. There is also a biographical note on Rolvaag at the stop of the novel.

Giants in the Earth is more attainable and perhaps more riveting than Peder Victorious, simply for those who are interested, this novel of settlers on the Southward Dakota prairie brilliantly shows the conflicts that must have arose with the Americanization of the Norwegian settlers. As Peder matures throughout the story, the conflicts that surely sprang up between the original Norwegian settlers and their at present American children are illustrated in Peder's life. The relationship between Peder, as well as his other siblings, and their mother is peculiarly poignant. The normal separation of children from their parents is magnified equally the children are as well separating themselves from their parent's culture and their ain heritage. While I would very highly recommend Peder Victorious, I know it is not a book for everyone and needs to be read afterwards Giants in the Earth. http://shetreadssoftly.blogspot.com/

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Dec 28, 2011 Margaret rated it did not like it

I was so disappointed in this book. His first book Giants in the Earth is a magnificent story of the Norwegian settlers in the Dakotas. This book is a sequel to the first and I could not believe that is was the same author. What a allow down.

Aug 15, 2018 Mike rated information technology liked it

Recommends it for: those who enjoyed Rølvaag's Giants in the Earth and Cather'south O Pioneers!

3.v stars. The 2nd novel in Rølvaag's prairie trilogy is not great, but I certain did savor reading it. Peder is an obvious symbol of the young American spirit on the precipice of the modern historic period: a native built-in son of immigrants suspended between the past and the futurity, the traditions of the Old World and the promise of the new, restrictive religious morals and progressive idea, homesteading and westward expansion, etc. The ii central texts in this novel are the Bible and Whitman. The former is iii.5 stars. The 2d novel in Rølvaag'south prairie trilogy is not great, simply I sure did savor reading it. Peder is an obvious symbol of the young American spirit on the precipice of the modernistic historic period: a native born son of immigrants suspended between the past and the futurity, the traditions of the Erstwhile World and the promise of the new, restrictive religious morals and progressive idea, homesteading and westward expansion, etc. The two central texts in this novel are the Bible and Whitman. The former is quoted past Peder'due south mother, who represents the desire of immigrants to cling to their Old World customs, while the latter is an ode to the pioneer spirit embraced past Peder. Like Joyce'due south Stephen Dadelus, he is caught in the nets of nationality, language, and religion.

In truth, this is not a classic on par with Giants in the Globe -- it'due south a rather average coming-of-age immigrant narrative that covers ground already well explored in meliorate novels past previous American authors (Cather, Garland, Lewis, Ferber, et al. -- but Rølvaag's prose has an earthy, plain-spoken beauty that unfolds with the dreamy lethargy of a long, warm summer in the great plains. If y'all enjoyed the characters and the pacing of Giants, and then I would recommend giving this novel a shot. I have already planned to read the final novel of the trilogy and a couple more from Rølvaag that are kept in the basement storage facility of the Milwaukee Public Library -- which is the perfect mode to encounter the works of this under-read midwestern chronicler of the Scandinavian immigrant feel.

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Oct thirty, 2017 Donia rated it liked it

Having lived for several years in areas of the Primal Plains settled by Norwegians, I was drawn to read Rolvaag's books. Every bit so many others have stated, Giants of the Globe was an easier read. I found Peder Victorious much slower and difficult to wade through just I did find that the "arguments" it posed and the community divisions it described mirrored what I experienced living in this region every bit an outsider. Though the story described life many decades prior to my experiences, I institute information technology to exist a Having lived for several years in areas of the Central Plains settled by Norwegians, I was drawn to read Rolvaag'south books. Equally so many others take stated, Giants of the Earth was an easier read. I found Peder Victorious much slower and difficult to wade through but I did notice that the "arguments" it posed and the community divisions information technology described mirrored what I experienced living in this region as an outsider. Though the story described life many decades prior to my experiences, I plant it to be a wonderful description of life there fifty-fifty decades later. I but can't charge per unit it college as it was and so dry for me. Perhaps after mulling information technology over I will change my mind. I do believe that it is an important contribution to the literature and history of our land. ...more than

Jan 15, 2019 Shelli rated information technology really liked it

I actually enjoyed this sequel, giving it 4 stars instead of five only considering I liked the beginning and eye better than the end. He wrapped it up in a bow which was less than satisfying to ME. Since I grew upwardly in the area and am half or more Norwegian descent, this volume really resonated and brought a new element of understanding with his clarification of the immigrants struggle to maintain their cultural identity while being "Americanized". My ancestors were Lutherans and it bodes well to remember t I really enjoyed this sequel, giving it 4 stars instead of 5 only because I liked the beginning and middle improve than the end. He wrapped it upwardly in a bow which was less than satisfying to ME. Since I grew upwardly in the area and am half or more than Norwegian descent, this book really resonated and brought a new element of understanding with his description of the immigrants struggle to maintain their cultural identity while existence "Americanized". My ancestors were Lutherans and it bodes well to remember that our current church squabbles have been around FOREVER as noted in his storyline with the town church. I recommend this book, especially to Rölvaag fans. It'southward very good, and less dour than Giants. ...more

Dec 28, 2017 Les rated it liked it

My Original Notes (1997):

Good, but not groovy. Certainly not equally skilful every bit Giants in the Earth. The novel ran hot and common cold for me. Some parts didn't concord my interest at all (as well much religion?) and others did and so much that I couldn't put information technology down. Interesting sections involving the loss of native language (Beret vs. children and the church building)

My Current Thoughts:

I still plan to someday reread Giants in the Earth, but sadly this follow-up holds no interest to me.

My Original Notes (1997):

Proficient, but not great. Certainly not equally good every bit Giants in the Earth. The novel ran hot and cold for me. Some parts didn't agree my involvement at all (too much organized religion?) and others did so much that I couldn't put it down. Interesting sections involving the loss of native language (Beret vs. children and the church)

My Current Thoughts:

I still plan to someday reread Giants in the Earth, only sadly this follow-up holds no interest to me.

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three.five Giants in the Earth has stayed with me over the years. This sequel had a chapter, The Eyes That Did Not Meet, that was reminiscent, and I institute it first-class. While much of the book was not as interesting to me, regarding the land and church politics, the second generation immigrant issues existence mulled over felt relevant to me, and my centre felt the pains of this mother'southward struggle, every bit her children moved towards the inevitable. 3.v Giants in the Globe has stayed with me over the years. This sequel had a chapter, The Eyes That Did Non Encounter, that was reminiscent, and I plant it excellent. While much of the book was not as interesting to me, regarding the state and church politics, the second generation immigrant issues being mulled over felt relevant to me, and my heart felt the pains of this mother'due south struggle, as her children moved towards the inevitable. ...more

Much more poetic than Giants in the Earth...and a struggle is central in both. The commencement is the concrete struggle to tame the land and organize people; the second is a spiritual struggle to get oneself, not a mirror prototype of immigrant parents & the struggle of parents to see their children becoming other than ethnic..

Peder Victorious is possibly even more riveting as a character written report than was Giants in the Earth. The fact that Rølvaag could maintain my fascinated involvement in a book so far out of my normal reading zone is a testimony to his greatness. I am grateful for these first two books, and I look forward to reading the third.

Love the descriptions of community meetings in this volume. They are so familiar to current political dialogues. Rolvaag is a master at crafting an absolutely unique character with a minimum of words.
Peder Victorious also speaks, withal, to our debates on race, diversity and nationality.

Apr 01, 2019 Bob Peterson rated it really liked it

I had read the final volume of this trilogy, their fathers God, before I read Peter victorious. And then, basically this was a fill in the gap book. Basically, Peter's adolescence and young adult hood. The breaking away from a parent is difficult plenty, just when added to a parent who comes from a different country and never is interested in learning the language or the culture the pause is all that much more powerful. A sad only insightful tale of our ancestors and current immigrants in the strain immig I had read the final book of this trilogy, their fathers God, earlier I read Peter victorious. So, basically this was a fill in the gap volume. Basically, Peter'due south boyhood and young adult hood. The breaking abroad from a parent is difficult enough, but when added to a parent who comes from a unlike country and never is interested in learning the language or the civilization the break is all that much more powerful. A sad only insightful tale of our ancestors and electric current immigrants in the strain immigration to a new country can put on those relationships.

All in all, a great trilogy starting with giants in the world. So glad I took the time to read all three books and explore the navigation of Norwegian immigrants to this new state. Actually, this can be extrapolated to most any immigrant to a new land.

Brought back many memories of my grandparents and things they said or did I can wait at or think of in a new calorie-free.

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January 23, 2015 Sherry Elmer rated it really liked information technology

Somewhat reluctantly, concluding year I picked up Rolvaag's Giants in the Earth. To my surprise, I loved it. I gained a new appreciation of the pioneer experience, learned a lot, and vicious in love with the characters. I was very glad to acquire at that place was a sequel.

Peder Victorious is good, but not as proficient as Giants. The experience of Peder's generation, built-in in America, was much different than that of their forefathers'. The danger is much less as more people built bigger and stronger communities and civi

Somewhat reluctantly, last year I picked up Rolvaag's Giants in the Earth. To my surprise, I loved it. I gained a new appreciation of the pioneer experience, learned a lot, and fell in love with the characters. I was very glad to larn at that place was a sequel.

Peder Victorious is good, but not as proficient every bit Giants. The experience of Peder's generation, born in America, was much different than that of their forefathers'. The danger is much less as more people built bigger and stronger communities and ceremonious society. The land becomes less of a towering presence than information technology had been to a handful of people living in sod huts. But in that location were yet difficulties. The generations have a hard time understanding each other. Nothing new there, but the issues of language (Norwegian or English language) and homeland make the divide more poignant.

This book fulfills category #4, a classic in translation, for the Dorsum to the Classics 2016 challenge. http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogsp...

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This sequel to the landmark novel Giants in the earth continues the saga of Norwegian immigrants into the second generation. Pedal, the child built-in afterwards the immigrants achieve and settle in South Dakota. Pedal struggles to be American, not Norwegian while his mother fights dorsum by insisting he speak Norwegian and resisting his friendships with the "undesirable" Irish cosmic immigrants.

Although not equally famous or moving as Giants in the Earth, Pedar Victorious is really more readable and while de

This sequel to the landmark novel Giants in the globe continues the saga of Norwegian immigrants into the second generation. Pedal, the child born after the immigrants reach and settle in South Dakota. Pedal struggles to be American, not Norwegian while his mother fights back by insisting he speak Norwegian and resisting his friendships with the "undesirable" Irish catholic immigrants.

Although not as famous or moving equally Giants in the World, Pedar Victorious is really more readable and while dealing with heavy subject affair, it is a less nighttime story. Definitely a good novel to read as it tells a peachy story as well as providing a very realistic view of Norwegian immigrant life.

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Oct 20, 2008 KrisAnne rated it information technology was ok

This was a total slog, but in one case I was in I felt obligated to terminate it. I should remind myself to ignore that feeling when I have 20 other books sitting on the pile. Like Giants in the Earth, this one is maybe notable for the extent to which a woman is a complete and central character, forward-thinking in many ways only securely entrenched the onetime country means in others. The book also clearly defines the generational divide between the immigrant parents and the Americanized or American-born childre This was a total slog, only once I was in I felt obligated to finish it. I should remind myself to ignore that feeling when I have twenty other books sitting on the pile. Like Giants in the Earth, this one is maybe notable for the extent to which a adult female is a complete and central character, forrard-thinking in many ways simply deeply entrenched the quondam country means in others. The book also clearly defines the generational divide between the immigrant parents and the Americanized or American-born children. But I have a feeling there are lots of other books that define that dissever much better. ...more

The second volume of a trilogy, this book does non disappoint. Like the beginning (Giants in the World), it follows the lives of the Holm family, Norwegians who have settled in the Dakotas. This one focuses on the youngest child in the family unit, Peder, and traces his growth to adulthood. As with the first, it also closely follows his mother, Beret, who increasingly resents the young people's reliance on English rather than the language of the old land. I await forward to reading the final book in th The 2d volume of a trilogy, this book does not disappoint. Like the start (Giants in the Globe), it follows the lives of the Holm family, Norwegians who have settled in the Dakotas. This one focuses on the youngest kid in the family unit, Peder, and traces his growth to adulthood. Every bit with the starting time, it besides closely follows his mother, Beret, who increasingly resents the young people's reliance on English rather than the language of the quondam country. I look forward to reading the final book in the trilogy, Their Fathers' God. ...more than

This sequel to Giants in the Earth is set well-nigh Sioux Falls around the turn of the final century. The American offspring of Norwegian settlers upset their elders with their American ways. Speaking English, courting those not Norwegian, taking part in school dramas, all bring Beret Holm to question herself and God. Peder, her youngest, grows to manhood torn between respecting his mother and existence a determined American. The struggle between generations continues today, giving the story relevance. Th This sequel to Giants in the Earth is set about Sioux Falls around the turn of the last century. The American offspring of Norwegian settlers upset their elders with their American ways. Speaking English, courting those non Norwegian, taking part in school dramas, all bring Beret Holm to question herself and God. Peder, her youngest, grows to manhood torn between respecting his mother and being a determined American. The struggle between generations continues today, giving the story relevance. The novel is also interesting for its historical view of everyday life, religion, and politics. ...more

Mr. Rolvaag did it again - sympathetic characters, great plot and the human condition. Well written and organized every bit are all of his books. If you are a first reader of his books, yous should begin with GIANTS OF THE World or at least read it, the greatest of his books. In my opinion, his works are among the greatest of the historical fiction of Scandinavian immigrant experience. I highly recommend it.

May 17, 2012 Rachelfm rated it information technology was amazing

These are such relevant, contemporary American struggles. No other novel of pioneers I've read published during this time period manages to delve so intimately into all facets of life: religion, mental disease, sexuality, loyalty, identity. I can't believe how much I honey these books and how well they've anile. These are such relevant, contemporary American struggles. No other novel of pioneers I've read published during this fourth dimension period manages to delve and then intimately into all facets of life: organized religion, mental illness, sexuality, loyalty, identity. I tin't believe how much I love these books and how well they've aged. ...more than

April 17, 2008 Sarah Moening rated information technology really liked it

I think this volume and its companion "Giants of the Globe" are both important books for Lutherans and/or history buffs to read. I am hoping that many folks at Our Savior's will selection information technology up and join the conversation of how nosotros encounter ourselves and our mission in the broader world. I think this book and its companion "Giants of the Earth" are both important books for Lutherans and/or history buffs to read. I am hoping that many folks at Our Savior'southward will choice information technology upwards and join the conversation of how we see ourselves and our mission in the broader globe. ...more than

Aug xxx, 2015 Peter rated it liked it

I'm rating this at 3 stars just because although I read it twenty years ago, I don't really call up it. Simply I like Rolvaag (Giants in the Earth is wonderful, and gets v stars), so Peder Victorious gets the benefit of the doubt. I'g rating this at three stars merely because although I read it twenty years ago, I don't really call up it. But I like Rolvaag (Giants in the Earth is wonderful, and gets 5 stars), then Peder Victorious gets the benefit of the incertitude. ...more

Mar 30, 2008 Jen rated it it was amazing

Not quite as good as Giants in the Earth but first-class yet, have as well re-read this 1 several times.

Sequel to one of my favorites (Giants in the World), but not as expert by a long shot. It started off well, but became really dry.

Wonderful sequel to Giants in the Earth. Considering I am 1 of the descendants of the northern plains settlers to whom that book is dedicated, these novels concord a special identify on my shelf.

Jul 12, 2015 Kristine rated it did not like it

This sequel did not live upwardly to the commencement book at all. Boring subject matter, too much emphasis on strange politics that left me very uninterested in continuing to read

A little as well dour for me. Beautifully written, though.

I was hungry for more of O.E. Rolvaag. This one did not compare to the beginning.

Ole Edvart Rølvaag was built-in in the family's cottage in a small fishing village on the island of Dønna, in the far southern district of Nordland county, Norway. Dønna, one of the largest islands on the northern declension of Kingdom of norway, is situated about five miles from the Arctic Circle. He was born with the name Ole Edvart Pedersen, one of vii children of Peder Benjamin Jakobsen and Ellerine Pedersdatte Ole Edvart Rølvaag was born in the family'due south cottage in a small fishing village on the island of Dønna, in the far southern commune of Nordland county, Norway. Dønna, 1 of the largest islands on the northern coast of Norway, is situated almost five miles from the Chill Circle. He was born with the name Ole Edvart Pedersen, i of seven children of Peder Benjamin Jakobsen and Ellerine Pedersdatter Vaag. The settlement where he was born had no official name, but was referred to as Rølvaag, the name of a narrow bay on the northwestern point of the island where the fishermen kept their boats. At xiv years of age Rølvaag joined his father and brothers in the Lofoten fishing grounds. Rølvaag lived there until he was 20 years of age, and the impressions he received during the days of his childhood and his immature manhood endured with him throughout his life.[2]

An uncle who had emigrated to America sent him a ticket in the summertime of 1896, and he traveled to Union County, Southward Dakota to work every bit a farmhand. He settled in Elk Point, Southward Dakota, working as a farmhand until 1898. With the help of his pastor, Rølvaag enrolled in Augustana Academy in Canton, S Dakota where he graduated in 1901. He earned a available'south degree from St. Olaf Higher in Northfield, Minnesota in 1905, and a main's caste from the same establishment in 1910. He also had studied for some time at the University of Oslo.

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